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singaporedaddy on September 21st, 2008 3.20 pm

Thank you for another charming post Jan.
“What accounts for the 180 degree change of heart?” Its really quite simple Jan. Even today, there are many of us who still believe what AIMS is trying to accomplish has nothing to do with us or even greater blogosphere.
Admittedly, these are protectionist sentiments.
However, AFTER the ASDF (the think tank) of the brotherhood conducted a preliminary impact analysis on e-engagement – many of us realized. Hence the change of heart.
We realized, we may have to take equity in the process. As this is not simply a case of our neighbor building a BBQ pit as you mentioned.
Whether we like it or not, we may have to reconcile ourselves to certain fixed assumptions.
(a)blogosphere is anticipated to grow exponentially, it will also exert a gravity strong enough to attract social and political interest.
(b)Govt will not be able to ignore (a). They need to take equity in modulating its growth and direction.
(c)They have every right to project.
From this cursory analysis – the BBQ pit now looks more like a thermo nuclear reactor so whether we like it or not, we have to take a interest. As e-engagement is anticipated to have a profound impact on the demographics, trajectory and cultural attributions of our net –

Click here to read the entire thread:

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/consider/#comments

Happy Reading

Y2K

I am entering this post for the purposes of record keeping – this is an official reply from Singaporedaddy to a question forwarded by Dentist Jan to the Brotherhood.

You can find the discussion here

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/consider/#comment-22035

Happy Reading

reg

Y2K

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1) Dentist Jan on September 20th, 2008 10.50 am Hi

I would just like to commend the “media socialist” for sharing with many of us their proposals for e-engagement.

Its very heartening to note many have taken the time and effort from their busy schedule to really sit down and come up with good ideas.

That was one reason why I made an effort to connect with others in the AIMS forum yesterday.

I am also happy to note TheOnlineCitizen is living up to its reputation as an online leader as it took on many issues raised on the floor during the forum. Personally, I thought the idea of legislating against something which would eventually become obslete was a very compelling case.

I was however very disappointed that the brotherhood once again have failed to deliver on their promise by not even bothering to send a diplomatic troupe as they have promised to do.

Neither have they submitted a single workable proposal. Infact, it could be said even their newly appointed Liaison officer, Singapore Daddy has been sleeping on the job.

Very regrettable indeed. May I respectfully ask the Liaison officer of the brotherhood, when we will get a proposal from the brotherhood? Will we even get one as promised? Toc has done it and so have the media socialist, now you boys will simply have to follow suite.

Brush you teeth regularly.
2) gvhg on September 20th, 2008 11.04 am What hubris!
3) Dentist Jan on September 20th, 2008 11.15 am Hi

There is one further question. Who are the media socialist? What do they really stand for? Are they affiliated to the Internationalist Communist Group? Are they trying to establish an online egalitarian community based on Marxist Leninism?

I believe its not only me who is confused. I heard a group of people asking themselves who is this media communist? Do they have links to North Korea and Cuba?

I think, it may be a good idea for either TOC or the Singapore Daily to feature a write up or at least post a brief introductory as to who the media socialist really are.

Many thanks.

And remember, do brush your teeth regularly.
4) Komenos on September 20th, 2008 2.33 pm Well they can’t stop people from putting prohibited content onto youtube but they do what they do best. Sue the hell out of whoever put those content onto youtube or even youtube itself
5) singaporedaddy on Your comment is awaiting moderation. September 20th, 2008 2.58 pm Good Afternoon Dentist Jen,

1. I don’t believe the ‘media socialist’ have anything remotely to do with any oligarchy, hegemony or group that is even affiliated with Союз Советских Социалистических Республик. If anything, it has to be a misnomer. Then again this is none of my business perhaps you can take it up directly with them.

2. As to the second part of your acidic commentary. It is not true to say that we are apathetic about what AIMS is trying to accomplish in our net.

On the contrary, we are monitoring developments very closely on this front.

However, let me just clarify, we don’t believe it is fair for us to impose our views on the rest of blogosphere.

Here we are always mindful. While we have every right to dig a hole in our backyard to plant a fruit tree, but we don’t have a right to do strip mining so as to affect the rest of our neighborhood. This overriding need to respect the sensitivities, space and right to privacy of other netizens is always in the foreground of our planning efforts.

Having said that Jen, rest assured, the substantive content of our proposal is already 99.9% completed. IMHO the ASDF have done a marvelous job.

I can assure, from what I have seen, this proposal will not address many of the challenges of ensuring online vibrancy and security, but it will also be able to deliver all these goodies in a cost effective and workable way to ensure the mutual interest of govt’s and netizens alike.

Allow me to just share with you; what we have been doing. Our planners believe very strongly e-engagement must be structured very much like an online game – ideally, it should be fun yet educational to engage the govt and vice-versa – we don’t see any compelling reason why this should be a dowdy affair.

Having said this, based on the simulations, even at this prototypal stage many of our planers have informed me one of their biggest problem is deconstructing the climate of fear – they see this as the greatest challenge that militates against e-engagement, so a primary thrust of these second stage process is to profile strategies to get on top of these problems. That is why, we are taking such a long time. As in many cases, we simply don’t have the skills sets and are entirely dependant on our foreign channel partners to provide these value added inputs.

To accomplish this second part successfully we need to revivify the whole proposal with the whole idea of edutainment- this I do not mind admitting is new to us, but to many of our channel partners it’s a stroll in the park – this unfortunately is also the most time consuming part as what many of our gaming specialist need to do at this stage is not altogether so different from subjecting a prototype automobile to a barrage of test to ensure safety, operational fitness and customer satisfaction.
I am not trying to fashion excuses. Rather my hope here is to give you Jen, a brief peek into the whole process so that you may understand the reasons for the delay.

At the time of writing this, I have been informed further test will be required for at least 14 earth days with a possible 7 more for further proofing – so we may perhaps only see a roll out of the proposal some time in the middle of next month.

Rest assure Jen we are moving as fast as we can and we are definitely not sleeping.

Thank You Jen,

Singaporedaddy