Daily SG: 30 Oct 2008
Posted by singaporedaily on October 30th, 2008
High Notes and Minibombs
- Singapore Life and Times: Toxic Towns
- Tan Kin Lian’s Blog: Mini-bond investor gives his view
- Wayang Party Club of Singapore: Is it time for us to look into the accounts of PAP Town Councils?
Financial Crisis
- Blowin’ In The Wind: Singapore newspaper’s amazing knowledge gap
- My sketchbook: Job of a politician-restoring confidence of the public
Power to Cost the People
- A long and arduous road of an entrepreneur: Energy (Electricity) Conservation Tax
Gospel of Harry: Marry Graduates Good, Marry Non-Graduates Bad
- To Fix a Mocking Peasant: Designer Marriages (Or: Why my parents should have been graduates)
Fixing the Opposition
- Enjoy the Breeze: A new political landscape?
- Singapore Kopitiam Forum: Is democracy truly attainable?
- Sgpolitics.net: A weblog on politics and current Singapore Democrats meet Anwar Ibrahim’s daughter
Lee vs Chee
- Chia Ti Lik’s Blog: TBT Trial 3rd & 4th day - The question of Equality - Article 12 Singapore Constitution
- Singabloodypore: Arguments on constitution continue on day 4 of trial
SG Press rank 141 and falling | The Misquoting of Agnes Lin?
- TOC: TOC Exclusive - Agnes Lin: a victim of the ST?
- The Lycan Times 狼人時報: Daily Discourse - Agnes Lin
Daily Discourse
- Sgpolitics.net: Las Vegas Sands woes to delay Marina IR opening?
- Singapore Skeptic: The cost of middle-class living in Singapore
- The Legal Janitor: Is this guy for real?
- Winter is Coming: Its Time ST did the Right Thing
- groundnotes: Leadership: Doing and Saying
Life, the universe and everything
- Cooler Insights: How China Could Resolve Its Growing Consumer Crisis
- Delvinlee’s Weblog: The 7 Storey Hotel - A memorial [Thanks Delvin]
- Singapore Agnes Tan: Upcoming Halloween Parties in Singapore


Say NO to internet regulation in Singapore.


October 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Dear Valued Readers,
The final report of AIMs will be published today at 30th Oct 2008 @ Local Time: 11.29 pm.
Do check at:
http://dotseng.wordpress.com/
Along with other sites and links affliated with the Brotherhood Press.
FYI
Many thanks
Y2K
October 30th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Dear Valued Readers,
Yes, it is finally out. The final parter of the AIMs report.
http://dotseng.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/suggested-solutions-for-managing-e-relationships-between-netizens-and-government-part-3-b-the-strategic-initiative-the-final-chapter/
Pls note: I have compiled all the questions from our readers in the PBK and strangelands.
I will try to consolidate them as some of them are very similar and get it published in the same site either this or next week.
If any of you wish to ask a question concerning the report do drop us a personal line in the FILB.
Many Thanks
Y2K
October 31st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
It is a good piece of work.
http://dotseng.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/suggested-solutions-for-managing-e-relationships-between-netizens-and-government-part-3-b-the-strategic-initiative-the-final-chapter/
Really it is.
But how far do you think, you chaps will get. If you keep up your on-going gripe with Bernard Leong? I heard this matter has gone from bad to worse. It seems now wherever and whoever he associates with the brotherhood will automatically boycott.
How long do you think, you people can keep on boycotting the blogger 13 and TOC.
Try to live and let live.
You know I happen to know exactly what Darkness did to the deacon who wronged he once in his church. He said, of course I forgive you, but I still need to take my tooth.
You ppl will not go very far with that sort of attitude
November 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
I personally don’t believe there will ever be any peace. BOTH sides made the calculation to go to war knowingly and even if they didn’t know. They would have been able to scale the long term repercussions without too much difficulty. I don’t think, it’s fair or accurate to say, all this could have been brought abt by just one party alone. It takes two hands to clap. Both parties are to blame.
Whatever it is, there is no incentive for the BP to close the divide. Why should they?
That can only happen if BL is able to blockade them or squeeze their capacity to network. He has not been able to do this, as his reach will always be finite.
They don’t even share a common readership base. I don’t even believe, they share anything in common really.
These days no one really cares or remembers what once happened between the BP and Bernard Leong. All they remember is a decision was made to shut down the IS because of the fight.
All I know is, they want nothing to do with him. Or anyone who he associates with. If the govt gets involved with him, the brotherhood do not want equity. Dowan means dowan, it is as simple as that. And he has made it whistle clean clear, he wants nothing to do with the BP as well. So their positions are pretty well squared off.
The status quo ante is preserved along with the general peace. I personally think that you are blowing things out of proportion.
Y2K
November 1st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
One marvellous thing about the long tail is everyone has their own cachet of readers.
BP readers for instance only seem to read BP stuff. From what I can see. How do I know this? 90% of them seem to log in directly from their bookmarks. So there you go.
They may wander occasionally to TOC to lookey see, but I don’t believe, they are really reading as much as browsing. There is a difference.
And vice-versa. So what you need to understand here is the BP will always prioritize the interest of their readers above all else.
What do you think their readers will do, if they associated with TOC? Bear in mind this a site that once accepted money from a certain political party.
Do come and tell me, its business as usual. No such thing in their book.
In their score card, that’s bribery and throws into question the whole issue of trust, character and integrity.
That I think is why their readers and not them want to keep as far away from TOC as possible. You will be very surprise how much clout the average BP reader has.
All they have to do is stop their cheque books.
Whatever it is, this is good for the net as a whole - diversity, that is.
How will life be if all you can do is shop in Carrefour and Giant?
Have you ever considered that?
Life will simply cease to have meaning.
Y2K
November 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Why so serious? Come, fly with me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8SGwOekgIo&feature=related
Darkness 2008
November 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm
hello r you really there darkness
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:26 am
Dear all,
Re; irrate mail concerning the ASDF report to AIMs.
I can understand why many still do not understand why we deliberately limit circulation of Brotherhood Press material to only this site and perhaps the intelligent Singaporean.
Fact is simply this; we do not allow TOC to carry ANY of our writes; so you cannot blame them, if they don’t regularly aggregate us. We have made it plain and clear to them. But why are we doing this?
It seems even spiteful and even petulant, but there is a very good reason for this. As Y2K rightly mentioned, we don’t want to see the creation of a news monopoly like the variety that plagues the world, where only the ST monopolizes every single aspect of the social narrative? In what way will that serve the greater interest of the broader community?
Whenever there is a monopoly, be it in retail, business or government, it boils down to only one reality; your field of possibilities is narrowed to the power of one i.e you can only buy one brand of soap. It may be at the lowest price, it may even do a great job of removing dirt but that is not the point; always remember it is a narrowing of the field of possibilities that reduces everything to a take-it-or-leave-it transactional relationship. And if this monopoly is allowed to take root, a day will even come when you can go into a shop and buy a white sock and a black sock only to dye the white one black because the shop has run out of stock only to believe this is perfectly natural. My point is; YOU HAVE BEEN SHORT CHANGED, as a consumer you have a right to choose, to individuate even define how you might wish to stand apart from the narrow strata of what is traditionally offered by the mainstream. You don’t have to be like other people; you can be yourself; but this is only possible, if you have a choice.
So what is the solution? It is to create the long tail i.e more little shops. But how do we ensure these shops can stay in business? Firstly, they have to be able to provide reads which are unique and even different from the standard off the shelve Lux soap. They may be handmade making them more expensive or they may even be manufactured without being tested on animals, but Y2K point is this; you can never get this bar of soap from Carrefour or Giant. If you want it, then you have to go to the small shops.
This can only be accomplished if we limit the circulation of our reads to sites such as the Singapore Daily. In this way many BP readers will come here. They will even tell their friends to do the same. And when they are here, they will not only read BP material, but they will only browse through what is offered here, very much in the way a consumer buys not only a bar of soap, but also shampoo and bar oils from the same shop. This way the small shops will always be able to hold their own against the hyper markets.
However to do all this; let us be realistic; the ASDF recently completed a four part series here
http://dotseng.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/suggested-solutions-for-managing-e-relationships-between-netizens-and-government-part-3-b-the-strategic-initiative-the-final-chapter/
Now I will not beat around the bush and simply come to the point; how are we going to be able to churn out these type of detailed and insightful proposals if our own readership keeps on threatening to cut off our funding just because they are not happy with what we write? In these few days alone, we have received so many of these threats.
My advise is if you are not happy, then take your piggy bank and fuck off.
We don’t have a problem with funding.
This is not a case of the piper calls the tune – as it remains preserving the right to call a spade a spade.
Perhaps this is something that many of you should think about seriously.
Many of the proposals hammered out by the ASDF remain controversial. I don’t doubt they will even rub many the wrong way along with throwing up many uncomfortable truths and even pointing the proverbial finger at certain quarters, but this is really how we should all move forward – through reasoned debate.
If some of you are not happy, then please keep your lindens, go to second life and spend it on an obama t-shirt or something, but please don’t give it to us with the expectation we will write what you want to read, too many people are already in the business of manufacturing the consumerist truth to slake the cult of the cult of marketing manifesto. We cannot follow them. And if we do where do you think we will all end up in the long term?
Meanwhile please remain patient. I believe Y2K is arranging an interview with Vollariane, Kadjal, Scholarboy and Cerebus. These people are the core team of the ASDF and they will happiest to answer many of your questions concerning the AIMs report.
Darkness 2008